Once and for all, who does the hiring???

I’ve been cold-calling magazines to get in the contact info of the managing or executive editor to get an interview. Unfortunatly, most magazines have editorial assistant who plays dumb and puts you through to HR. I specifically asked who does the hiring at the mag or who is the manager of the editorial department, and they always say a person’s name in HR and transfers me to them. So can someone just confirm my suspiscion that managing editors or executive editors do the hiring at magazines, NOT HR! Is it better that I start cold-emailing with a great cover letter stating my love for the mag, instead of wasting my time over the phone? I can never get to any editors directly over the phone, but I can e-mail them directly! What should I do! I need a job FAST!

I agree with the previous

I agree with the previous poster—read the article on the homepage of Ed about how Ed staffers got their first jobs … one thing I noticed that everyone had in common is that everyone really displayed creativity, tenacity, and grit in their job search process.

But, to answer your question, HR and editors often work in tandem to get candidates. Oftentimes, the best route in is through an editor, but you’ll often still need to go through HR. My best recommendation is to e-mail editors at magazines you admire and tell them you want to work at their magazine. Don’t tell them you NEED a job—everyone does! Instead, send a friendly inquiry e-mail explaining why you want to work at THAT magazine and see what happens. And, in the meantime, get yourself registered in the HR system. It can’t hurt and good luck.

How do you register with HR?

How do you register with HR?

Easy, tiger

I know it’s frustrating, but no one is deliberately trying to screw you here. When there is an open position, you generally meet with the department head and/or executive editor, although I’ve met with everyone from editorial assistants to copy chiefs to creative directors to editors in chief. It all depends on what the position is—the people who are going to be dealing with you are the people you will most likely have to interview with. However, unless there is a position specifically open that they are hiring for at the moment you call, there is most likely not an editor who holds onto resumes that just come in over the transom. Often editors will hang on to resumes from candidates they’ve interviewed before and liked, but there isn’t a designated person on staff who collects resumes from cold calls—HR does, in fact, deal with cold calls like the kind you’ve been making.

A better bet is to write nice emails to editors and editorial assistants stating your interest and inquiring about openings at the magazine, and then following up regularly with the ones who get back to you. Phone calls are often invasive and inconvenient, and most editors won’t take calls from complete strangers—that’s how you end up trapped on the phone with a crazy person.

An even better idea is to adjust your expectations. There is no silver bullet that guarantees you will find a job fast, and unfortunately, you are not entitled to a job in this industry. I hate to be harsh about it, but if that kind of attitude is filtering into your calls, and you are demanding jobs and contact info from innocent editorial assistants (by the way, since it’s THEIR job you’re after, you better be nice to them, because they have NO reason to bring in competition for their own jobs) you are not going to get terribly far. I do wish you the best, and I hope this advice is somewhat helpful—really I just mean that focusing on relationship building and networking, with HR and staff, is the attitude you should be taking, rather than being antagonistic about not being helped.

I'm venting mchkate

I never give any kind of attitude while calling the magazines obviously, I’m venting here because this is very furstrating! I’m polite when I call to inquire about openings. It’s when I hang up the phone that I become upset, because I have been leaving messages on every HR contact’s voicemail that I get in touch with for a whil without anyone getting back to me. I just don’t know what I can do.

I know

I know how frustrating it is, believe me. I’ve been there several times since leaving school, and I happen to think that this board is a great place to vent. However, now that I’ve been on the other side for a little while, I do just want to point out that sometimes this kind of frustration does come through in phone calls and cover letters—I can almost always tell just from a letter who has been looking for a long time and is getting furious with the process. So that was all I meant by that, it really is better to try and let go of the frustration.

And of course, the other main point is that chasing HR is equally as important as chasing editors. The HR reps that I’ve worked with have recommended me for jobs that were filled without ever being listed anywhere, and that’s pretty common. Bypassing HR isn’t always the best decision; it’s worth it to get contact information there and email them your resumes and cover letters too. And I will reiterate that phone calls are not always the best way to get in touch with people. For better or for worse, we’re living in a very digital age—I almost always emailed and then sent a hard copy in a nice folder with some clips, I don’t think I ever called once. It puts people on the spot and if they don’t have a job open and they don’t know who you are anyway, it can kind of force their hand in a way that makes them uncomfortable. So, bottom line, I am sorry if I said anything that offended you, and email them followed by mail; don’t call once you have contact info.

Thanks, and I will take your advice!

I know you didn’t mean to offend, I just wanted to set the record straight. I LOVE E-MAILING! But I was advise by my supervisor (I had a temp position before it ended) to cold call in order to “sell my skills.” He said that if I was assertive enought, that hiring managers couldn’t say no. I hate cold calling and decided to read some books on looking for a job, and they pretty much said the same thing my supervisor did (cold call for a job, never e-mail.) I guess I will use my instincts next time instead of listening to business people (non-journalist I mean).